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in the campaign in a defensive posture, which is problematic. >> mark, is that the reason that the conversation was avoided? we heard so many times that governor romney would describe bain and his role there and the value of that company. we know it's private equities. we know how that game works, at least to some degree. none of us are wall street men and women in the conversation, but we know the realities of private equity. is this tape or some of the vision for bain capital the very reason we didn't hear him solidly defend that record because his vision was to harvest the profits of some of these companies they went in? >> well, i don't think we really know the reality, because we haven't had the longer discussion. we have a perception about them very shorthanded as mitt romney was doing in that tape. he was shorthanding what parlt of their business objective is. as part of that business objective, they saved weak companies. by saving weak companies, those companies didn't go out of business. they did, in fact, save lots of jobs that probably would have -- that would have been lost because
the use of violence. and yesterday, joel, president obama offered this robust defense of freedom of speech as a pre-eminent right in our country but meanwhile while this speech comes together is there a conflict between those two visions? >> thank you, thomas, for having me. there's really not a conflict. in a sense, president obama and netanyahu bracketing the speeches today of ahmadinejad and morsi and we witness something fascinating which is that morsi shown that egypt is now taking a more aggressive leadership role in the middle east while iran has become more isolated, is on the ropes and ahmadinejad is season almost as a past, a clowny-type figure but this discussion of freedom of speech, of how to deal with violence against embassies, it's the president speaking with morsi about this and calmed down the situation in cairo so i think it's a dialogue to see more of and doesn't seem to be a clash not workable. >> all right. so jim, as joel said, egypt wanting to take more of a leadership role here and iran astro sized than ever before and talking about syria, world leader after world
obama on libya, whether to focus on the economy. the white house has been on the defense over reports of security and intelligence flurs in benghazi before the terrorist attack. >> that is preposterous and offensive to suggest that. as information was received from the intelligence community, it was distributed. this president's record on terrorism takes a back seat to no one. >> in the meantime "the wall street journal" op-ed romney wrote -- joining me live now former state department middle east officer joel ruben. joel, first of all, is it a mistake to group these things. you have the investigation going on in libya as to what happened there, then you have paul ryan today going in on the president regarding afghanistan and the number of troops on the ground. it sounds as if they're trying to put all these things in a big, you know, pot hoping that something picks up steam. >> thanks for having me, tamron. it does feel like things -- issues are being thrown against the wall and they want to see what sticks. this issue of politicizing the murder of an american ambassador abroad is a
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